<html dir="ltr"><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body class="" style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Am Freitag, dem 04.02.2022 um 09:50 +0000 schrieb Sean Charles (emacstheviking):</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">What backend are you using...C ? </blockquote><div><br></div><div>asm_fast</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">You could wrap 'fstat' or something to do the job... </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, that wouldn't be difficult. But, as I've written, in my case, it isn't that bad. I can live with it.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">I must confess to a little surprise that we seem to have no library function to test for 'file exists' but in a way, that's the end developers issue, Mercury is not about covering all things to all men on all platforms as I understand it.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>But those platforms are all POSIX, aren't they? Linux, MacOS, Windows... Why not hand over the POSIX error codes, like it is done in the "posix" library, which is distributed in the "extras" directory in the Mercury source tree?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Volker</div><div><br></div><div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On 4 Feb 2022, at 09:03, Volker Wysk <<a href="mailto:post@volker-wysk.de" class="">post@volker-wysk.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div class="" style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div class="">Am Freitag, dem 04.02.2022 um 08:27 +0000 schrieb Sean Charles (emacstheviking):</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Volker,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just try to open files, if it fails, I use error_message() to explain why and leave it at that...is there some *specific* reason you need to know the file didn't exist?</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In MoinMoin, there sometimes is no "current" file, and in this case it should be treated as being empty. Other errors should be reported properly. So I need to distinguish a "file doesn't exist" error from other errors.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bye,</div><div class="">V.W.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On 4 Feb 2022, at 07:05, Volker Wysk <<a href="mailto:post@volker-wysk.de" class="">post@volker-wysk.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Am Freitag, dem 04.02.2022 um 16:51 +1100 schrieb Julien Fischer:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">On Fri, 4 Feb 2022, Volker Wysk wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">The type io.error is abstract. It looks like the only thing that can be done<br class="">with it, is to create an error message. But I need to do something which<br class="">depends on which error it is. So how to find this out...?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">You can't using the interface currently exported by the io module.<br class="">The io.error type just holds an error message. The implementation of<br class="">the predicates in the io module internally uses a system_error type, but<br class="">as its names suggests it is system specific and in any case isn't<br class="">accesible to normal user code.<br class=""><br class="">What is it that you are trying to do?<br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I want to read the contents of a file, using open_input,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">read_file_as_string, close_input. In case the file doesn't exist, I want to</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">return an empty string. So, in case of an error, I want to determine if it's</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">because the file doesn't exist.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It isn't a show stopper to me, I can return "" in case of any error, but it</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">isn't optimal.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Cheers,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; 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