<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 March 2015 at 13:56, Matt Giuca <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt.giuca@gmail.com" target="_blank">matt.giuca@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">You probably could have saved yourself some effort and made some friends if you wrote a polite mail to this list in the first place, before you spent two days trying to debug it yourself.</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>I tried this before. On 2013-03-24 to be precise. I wrote a very polite critique of the build system along with some proposed solutions for it and for the troubles it causes. It was very politely bike-shedded, then ignored.<br><br>Community leadership may find they get the behaviour they reward. If they want courtesy they should respond positively to courtesy. This is very basic motivational psychology. The kind of stuff you get in Psych 101 classes.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12px">PS. Your main complaint is answered in the second question in the </span><a href="http://www.mercurylang.org/information/doc-release/mercury_faq/Installing.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:12px">official FAQ</a><span style="font-size:12px">.</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>P.P.S. No, actually, it isn't. My main complaint is that the build system is retarded and undocumented for all practical purposes. My main complaint is that there are NO PROVIDED TOOLS for using that "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace;font-size:medium">LIBGRADES=<grades></span>" (which, on top of everything else, isn't even the correct way to do this any longer; the correct modern way to do it is with --enable-libgrades=<grades>). Or can you find the place in the docs where the correct selection of grades and their interactions is put? (Hint: no, you can't.)<br><br>P.P.P.S. Before lecturing me, Sparky, you probably should check history <b>and</b> check that the docs you so smugly point out are a) the actual answer to the problem (they aren't), and b) even accurate (they're not).<br><br>I strongly recommend that you think carefully before responding. And if that's too much work for you, don't bother responding. I'm not in the mood for listening to the wilfully ignorant.</div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace;font-size:medium"><br></span></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">"Perhaps people don't believe this, but throughout all of the discussions of entering China our focus has really been what's best for the Chinese people. It's not been about our revenue or profit or whatnot."<br>--Sergey Brin, demonstrating the emptiness of the "don't be evil" mantra.</div>
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